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Vaccinating Chicks

Equipment and supplies to vaccinate chicks for Marek’s

This is a reference list for my use, but sharing it with others seems like a great idea as well.

Specialized equipment and supplies

Updated prices as of August 2024. These are the best prices I could find. With shipping considerations you might find some are cheaper at other places.

Other supplies

  • small disposable plastic cups (for mixing partial dose vaccine). I have started using the empty vaccine vials.
  • small tweezers (to section vaccine disk and pull 1 piece out)
  • empty vaccine jar (or similar) with permanent rubber stopper (needed if you do partial doses)
  • small pliers to remove sealing band from vaccine bottle
  • Rubbing alcohol and cotton balls to sterilize the tops of the diluent bottles

Work area

  • well lit and clean
  • absorbent work surface (newspapers or paper towels)

Storage considerations

The vaccine comes with 2 parts:

  • Diluent – 200ml glass bottle. Can be stored at room temperature, but I refrigerate it.
  • The freeze dried wafer with the virus in a small glass bottle – Needs to be stored between 2 and 7 degrees C (35 – 45 degrees F)
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How to make money hatching and selling chicks

If this was advice on how to “get rich quick” you can be sure I would be charging you money for the info, rather than publish it online for free. The only way to make a million dollars in the poultry business is to start with 2 million dollars. If you manage to break even you are doing well. And you will be working for free, or at least far less than the minimum wage, such are the economics of this hobby.

If you really think you have what it takes, or just want to try, here are the “secrets” I have discovered over the years:

  • Explore your local market – see who else is selling chicks and how much they are getting for them.
  • Invest in premium stock from reputable breeders. It takes as much feed and time to maintain a flock of Easter Eggers from a hatchery as a flock of standard bred Ameraucanas. I have had people drive many hours to get real Ameraucanas, then pay 5 times what TSC sells their EE’s for.
  • Pick breeds and hybrids that have some existing demand. A corallary here is that chicks that you can sex (autosexing or sexlinked) will sell much better than straight run. I have found that I sell at least 10 times more pullet chicks than straight run. Your market may differ, but will still be very small if all you offer are straigh run.
  • If you sell pullet chicks, figure out ahead of time what you will do with the cockerels. Don’t assume people will buy them, even if cheap or free.

What breeds sell best ?

Anything that is sexable and lays unusually colored eggs.

Sexable chicks

Sexable chicks have special genetics that make the sexes look different at hatch. This uses the special case of genes that reside on the sex chromosome. Males have 2 copies of these genes, whereas females have only 1 copy and the breeder takes advantage of that difference with carefully arranged matings.

Autosexing Breeds

These have become very popular since the introduction of Cream Legbars into this country. They remain the most popular of these breeds, for very good reasons. I keep flocks of these breeds because they are so easy to sex and lay a lot of eggs, making them my best sellers.

Sex-linked Hybrids

While the autosexing breeds all look somewhat similar in pattern (because they have the gene for sexlinked barring), sexlinked hybrids are typically solid colored pullets. Not all the crosses you can make with sexlinked genes are possible to sex at hatch. For example, the color dilution genes blue and lavender make the chicks much harder to sex by the presence/absence of the head spot.

There are 2 types of color sex-linked hybrids:

  • Black sexlinks – This uses breeds whose base color is black and where one breed has the gene for sex-linked barring and the other breed does not. Female barred rocks, for example, can create black sexlinks with a wide variety of breeds that are non-barred. Both parent breeds contribute qualities to the chicks, so if you use, for example, a black Ameraucana rooster with your barred rock hens, all the pure black chicks will lay light green eggs.
  • Gold/Silver sexlinks – The very common production sexlink is of this type, a white rock (actually silver in color, which looks white) hen and a Rhode Island Red cock (these have the gold sexlinked gene). Resulting chicks are gold/red if female and yellow/silver if male.

Straight run chicks

Selling chicks straight run has benefits for the seller – you can raise any breed, not just ones that are sexable at hatch, and you don’t have to dispose of the male chicks. However, you will certainly find the market to be much, much smaller. It can be hard to even give away straight run chicks at times. Go ahead and try it if you are really that sure you can sell the chicks, I hope I am wrong in your case.

If you want to sell unsexed chicks, keep your scale small and do your research about what breeds are truly in demand. Polish are an example of a breed that even hatcheries sell straight run, because the extra males are quite useless to everyone. If I bred polish, I could sell a few each year, probably 5 or 6, no more. But if you find out what breeds are in high demand (and this changes from time to time), you can do much better. These are the breeds that were in high demand in 2022 and will likely remain in demand for a few more years:

  • Ayam cemani – the all black chicken that even non-chicken people have heard of. Some breeders advertise high prices to give these an air of rarity, that it is a privilege to own these birds. That is an entirely artificial market restriction meant to maximize profit. The other end has novice breeders selling anything that hatches from an egg laid by a bird they bought as an AC. Many of the cheaper birds should be culled, or at least not sold as pure AC. If a chick has any white skin, even the tip of a toe, it should not be considered an AC. I think there is a market for good quality at a fair price ($99 per chick is not a fair price, that is absurd!).
  • Copper Marans – no other Marans are as popular and you can sell Copper Marans for a while even if the eggs they lay are not very dark, but eventually your market will slow as customers realize your chicks are just like they get from the major hatcheries. If you want to sell Marans, buy broodstock from the best breeders with a reputation for dark egg lines. You might think that you should buy eggs then, and that might work, but eggs are risk and Marans eggs are extra hard to hatch, even if not shipped. The prices you get per chick are less than the AC, but the market is broader and if you can learn to hatch the darker eggs effectively, you can make back the feed money on these birds. It is more effort to work with Copper Marans lines that lay dark eggs, you must constantly select for the darkest eggs, which tends to make productivity and hatchability suffer. There are lines of Copper Marans that have become legendary for very dark eggs, but these tend to die out from inbreeding or other problems. Keeping a line healthy, productive and still laying dark eggs, is a substantial challenge.

That’s the list, I don’t know of any other breeds/colors that will sell as straight run with any regularity.

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The Future of Farming and Climate Change

In all the noise and politicization around climate change, I wonder whether we are spending our “climate dollars” efficiently. Government programs are notorious for being wasteful and attracting people that are just chasing the money. Most of the ardent supporters of these programs are wanting significant changes and grassroots movements pressing for those changes. The government programs seldom generate real changes in attitudes, simply procedural changes that are deemed to have a good ROI by the applicants.

One of the problems with our current situation is that the “quantity of influence” held by people is quite uneven. The average person has a rather small carbon footprint, so anything they do to reduce that will have rather small effects on the global situation. Some people invest huge amounts of money on climate-friendly infrastructure or vehicles. The end result is a significant reduction in their footprint, but of a small starting footprint, so the net climate effect per dollar is very small, really mostly symbolic. But a small number of people wield a much greater influence than the average. Executives of certain large corporations come to mind, but I want to discuss farmers, who also have climate change influence far greater than their neighbors.

I suspect that anyone that has not lived or worked on a farm has a completely wrong idea of what happens there. We see a documentary on TV about a large factory farm and assume the farm we drive by in our local area operates the same way. They don’t. If you were to talk to the farmers who own the small farms around town you would find them motivated by a generational pride because they grow food for the world, and a desire to provide for their family. Sadly, many family farms have fallen on hard times. This trend has been happening for decades and seems to be accelerating. Many farms have been sold off for housing development or rented to large farming operators while the land owners go work an off-farm job to meet their financial needs. The rental fees for their land generally cover the taxes and insurance, but not enough extra to provide an income. These farmers control their land only in the most basic sense of ownership, the choices about what gets planted and what chemicals are used on their land are ceded to the large farming operators that rented the land. Since the renters have no stake in the long term health of the soil and environment, their goal is to maximize their profits, often at the expense of the environment, especially biodiversity, which their land use practices specifically select against, as monocultures are most profitable in the short term.

Most farmers care deeply about the health of their land and soil. They understand that a healthy environment makes a healthy family, and take pleasure in “country living” that nourishes the body and the soul.

Farming is built on the principle that you make do with what you have and share what you can. A farmer can figure out the best and/or cheapest way to accomplish a goal, whether it is fixing some equipment or building housing for livestock. Given that, it is hardly surprising that farmers look at government programs with a great deal of skepticism. They know there is no truly “free lunch”, that all government money comes with strings attached, and start with the assumption that they will be worse off in the end if they join the program.

Is there a better way? For many years, the idea of Community Supported Agriculture has been suggested as the way forward. One version of this has become so popular that it is the only thing people think of when the hear the term “CSA”. But what about the farmers that are not in a position to grow direct to consumer food products? Is there a way for the community to support them? Is there a reason for people to support these farms?

Obviously, I think there is good reason for community support of small farms and farming families. The farms that remain in our communities are tremendous resources that can capture carbon, clear air pollution, stop erosion and the silting of waterways, and many other good things. They provide habitats for all sorts of wildlife, from native plants and pollinators to game animals. For generations the communities have benefited from the farms and left it to the government and free market to keep the farms afloat. If you look a the current state of affairs, you must conclude that that approach has failed, or at least stopped working in recent years. The renters of farmland actively try to remove biodiversity from the land in order to increase profits (which are often marginal to be fair). Even if the farmer wanted to restore the land to the way it was in the past, how can they afford to pay the expenses when no income is being produced?

Enter, the community. If community members who see benefits from a farm would step up to provide support, this situation could be turned around, to the immense benefit of the farmer, the farm family, the local community, and even the wider world. I am not claiming this will be easy, it could even prove to be unworkable in the end, but if we don’t try, nothing changes.

So, where to start is the major question now. I have lots of ideas to lay out here, but lack of resources (time and energy, mostly) is delaying an actual start. I need help. But why would others want to help? Here are some ideas that motivate me, or that I could imagine would motivate certain other people. I want this to be apolitical and non-partisan, so I am including ideas from all parts of the political-idealogical spectrum. To do otherwise would seem to exclude half of the potential participants. Good community land use shoud not be the exclusive domain of any idealogy, there is room here to meet in the middle.

Reasons to want community supported land use improvements
  • Concern about the changing global climate
  • Improved game habitat for hunting
  • Distaste for modern agribusiness and support of small food producing enterprises
  • Desire for a healthier local environment for our families
    • Reduced pesticide pollution – eliminate use of Roundup and other chemicals that could harm our environment, introduce organic practices
    • Reduced air pollution – lower burning of fuels, better absorption of pollutants by trees and perennial forage crops
    • Reduced water pollution and conservation – riparian buffers to manage runoff and integrity of streams
    • Reduced noise pollution – less running of large equipment, more year round vegetation to buffer noises
    • Natural lands for a place to enjoy nature in a variety of ways – hiking, bird watching, biology lessons
  • Preservation of historical practices and spaces
  • Development of educational and research areas for agricultural technologies
    • Silvipasture or agroforestry
    • Regenerative and sustainable food production
    • Pastured (grass fed) meat production with mob and successional grazing
    • Food forests, biodynamic and biodiverse permaculture
  • Sites to help preserve native plants and insects
    • Monarch butterflies get the big press, but keeping them happy preserves many others
    • Honeybee foraging
  • Social and economic justice – Sites for locals to create garden spaces and grow their own food (community gardening)
The Vision

I would like to see a local farm of about 100 acres converted from mostly conventional cropped land (corn and soybeans) into a perennial forage rangeland, with alley cropping of productive forage trees. Portions will be cut for hay, to control taller plants in the alleyways and provide some return to the farmer. Other sections could be fenced for rotational grazing. According to the interests of the community, specific areas would be designated for other specialized uses. For example, a local bee keeper might want a well secured area to keep hives of honeybees and a nearby field planted to a variety of nectar rich species. The field could be multi-use (open to visitors and contain non-bee specific plantings) but the hive area set aside for that one member.

The overall use of the land would demand certain practices, chemical-free and sustainable come immediately to mind, but different areas might have different target uses. The overall goal is to use the land in whatever ways provides the most benefits for our community and the landowner, intending this to become a permanent change to the way this land is used.

The Plan

First year:

  • Obtain contributions to takeover the land lease for the entire farm (multi-year commitment from donors)
  • Have the cropland prepared and seeded to perennial forage (mix of grasses and legumes)

As resources permit (could be first year):

  • Layout alley planting areas – leave in forage until ready to plant
  • Begin planting alleys according to plans
  • Fence and plant riparian buffer areas for stream
  • Setup specialized use areas as community members present the needs with plans for managing those are areas

Future years:

  • Erect temporary fencing for rotational grazing
  • Hay to be harvested in unimproved areas
Needs

Interested so far? Want to help? These are some skills and resources that would be very helpful:

  • Project management – this is a big idea with a lot of unknowns
  • Fund raising – are their grants that could be obtained? how much control would we have to give up to get those? what about grass-roots funding from the community?
  • Land survey and design
  • Ideas for additional uses
  • Ideas for additional sources of funding
  • Organizing communications – how to get contributors and keep them informed of opportunities as the project progresses
  • Financial contributions, both ongoing (for taxes and insurance) and one-off (plantings, fencing or other land development)
  • Volunteer time – planting, weeding, fence installation and maintenance
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Some random tips

  • The dry dusty shavings you clean from your brooder is perfect fertilizer and mulch for your garden, shrubs, or lawn? I use the smallest grade of shavings (usually called “fine”) and then the used bedding sifts nicely into the grass.
  • Turkey and Peafowl both adore bread product. Don’t feed it in excess of course, but this is a great wayto hand tame them.
  • The weeds that start growing in late winter and early spring are terrific as a “spring tonic” for poultry. Chickweed is called that because it is beloved by chickens of all ages.
  • The best bulbs for brooding chicks are the old-fashioned incandescent bulbs. They are increasingly hard to find due to government regulations, but I have found them at the bigbox stores (Lowes, Home Depot, etc) and also at Dollar Tree. Please do not use the heat lamp bulbs sold at farm stores, those a fire hazard indoors. I have a friend who lost their house when a brooder in their garage overheated.
  • A very handy device to adjust the heat in a brooder (and absolutely essential if you insist on using a heat lamp) is a Tabletop Lamp Dimmer.
  • Are your chicks wasting feed in those round feeders that screw onto jars? Cut as small strip of 1/2 inch hardware cloth and form it into a circle. Put it into the feeder to partially block the feed as it drop from the jar to slow it down. Chicks still get plenty to eat, but don’t wast as much feed.
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Our Philosophy

I do this for fun. That is my philosphy. I especially enjoy working on the genetics of these birds. In some cases I am trying to preserve a rare breed and so my breeding goals are to preserve the genetic diversity and shape them to match their breed characteristics. In other cases, the breed or color does not need preserving, so I have specific goals I am breeding towards. I am trying to put my breeding goals, and the what I consider to be the most important breed characteristics that must be preserved, in the page for each breed.

I hope you will love the birds you get from us. Don’t hesitate to contact us with questions or suggestions, we want you to be successful. If is fun to hear of the success of my customers, and it is fun to help as much as we can if there are problems, to work toward that success.

I can’t keep a lot of different breeds due to space and time restraints. Every year we try to get a few more breeds that we think will be of interest to my customers. Some are huge successes, some just don’t work out, but it is fun to try new breeds.

Why we keep the breeds we do ?

Legbars

Hybrid blue egg layers are great, but heritage breeds are the foundation of the poultry hobby, and even industry, so maintaining them is crucial. Of the non-hybrid, heritage breeds, the Legbar is the best blue egg layer. They are very close to the perfect back yard chicken breed.

Welbars

These will always have a special place because we created them here in the US. Never successfully imported, the recipe is well known and they are probably the easiest autosexing breed to create. They are equivalent to the Welsummers we used to raise, but they ability to easily sex every chicks is huge for us. As a dark egg layer, they are great producers and very friendly.

Ameraucanas

These are fairly new (1980’s) to the poultry world, but have justifiably taken the hobby market be storm. Unfortunately the name is often co-opted to represent birds of questionable genetics with regard to egg color. MAking the real deal available is a priority. My favorite color are the blacks. They are also often the favorite of poutlry judges, given how often they win best of breed and even overall champion. The Lavender color is hugely popular in the poultry hobby right now, and lavender Ameraucanas are riding that phenomenon. If you are going to have blue chickens, shouldn’t they lay blue eggs? The chicks are adorable, and if it was not for the difficulty sexing them, they might very well be the most popular badck yard chicken ever.

Marans

Years ago, the line of Marans we acquired were a disappointment, but at the insistance of some friends, we tried again and really like the 2 lines we have now. They seem to lay quite well, and are as friendly as the Welbars, Legbars and Ameraucanas. They are not sexable at hatch, but at a much younger age than Ameraucanas.

Ducks

I started raising Australian Spotted and Miniature Silver Appleyards. These are great as pet ducks, much less work and mess than larger ducks (at least “per duck”). With proper housing, these have the potential to be a very easy to manage backyard egg producer. They are impressive layers of beautiful green eggs about the size of a medium to large chicken egg. Recently, I added Aztec bantams and they have even more potential as a small pet duck that produces lots of eggs.

Then there are the larger ducks, the laying types. When I had Campbells and Harlequins in the past, they did not impress me. Sure they laid a lot of eggs, but their nervousness was aggravating. I accidentally kept a pair of Shetland ducks in 2021 and they proved to be much calmer and just as capable as layers. They have the additional advantage of being super productive layers.

Geese

Geese are my newest pets. I wanted to try some and found a pair locally of a very rare breed, a deal I could not pass up. I really like them now and expanded my flock quite a bit in 2022. Their eggs are very challenging to incubate properly, but I had great success and want to build on that in 2023.

Turkeys

If you’ve never had a pet turkey, you may not understand why turkey people are so passionate about these birds. They become very attached to people. Not an economical source of meat or eggs, the smaller types of heritage turkeys make great pets and are very interesting. They generally do well with other poultry and I recommend them as flock guardians where a rooster is not workable.

Guineas

A flock of feral guineas is an asset to the farm. They are comical and sometimes too noisy, but the “bug patrol” and “watchdogs” easily earn their keep.

Peafowl

Watch all the exotic bird programs on TV, but you will not find anything as pretty as a peacock. It is amazing that something so flashy and beautiful is also fairly easy to keep.

Genetic Hackle

Almost as impractical for food production as the peafowl, these have a similar attraction for me. Nearly impossible to find for sale, I was so excited to get these, and I am still impressed by the looks of the cock birds. There are even some males running feral on the farm and they do quite well for being such an ornamental bird.

Ayam cemani

I honestly did not “plan” to like these, they seemed like another “fad” chicken, with lots of low grade examples out there and prices for good ones are sky high. BUT, I found a really nice line of these and they are proving to be decent layers and as hardy as my other breeds. I enjoy obtaining the highest quality birds possible and then making them more available to people without “connections” or very deep pockets. These fit that description very nicely.

Ayam ketawa

I had high hopes for these “Laughing Chickens”. Watching YouTube videos made we want them. After raising a lot of them and not hearing the laugh I expected, I am less enthusiastic. But for years I have sought a wild-type chicken or pheasant to keep with my peafowl. Red Jungle Fowl are really messed up in this country and the other jungle fowl have hardiness issues in this area. Ironically, the ketawas act more like the Jungle Fowl I was seeking and they are doing excellent with the peafowl.

Bantams

Though not very practical for food production, it is hard to beat bantams as pets. I raise frizzle cochins and ameraucana bantams. Both are excellent for pets and very pretty little birds. Pictures don’t really do them justice, but most people that see them in person decide quickly that they need a few.